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  • Re: what do you make of this? by JakNife
    Fri, 01 Aug 2014 12:27:00 GMT


    It's all perfectly fair. The art is to understand the game and to understand when you're being sold one pound coins for three pounds, which is exactly what's happening here with InsetCo and FWIW was also what was happening with Tricor. Such companies exist principally to profit the company's best freinds, NOT shareholders!

    By JakNife
  • Re: what do you make of this? by SugaToyBoyDaddy
    Fri, 01 Aug 2014 09:44:00 GMT

    I agree there,but its still not fair play for those with money can control the markets in this way,hence a call for it to be changed to try and stop shorting I suppose. but as they say money goes to money.
    this goes on all over the shop,the art is to catch it low with a quick in out.and try not to get left holding the bag.:-( By SugaToyBoyDaddy
  • Re: what do you make of this? by JakNife
    Fri, 01 Aug 2014 09:36:00 GMT


    It's all perfectly legal! By JakNife
  • Re: what do you make of this? by SugaToyBoyDaddy
    Fri, 01 Aug 2014 09:27:00 GMT

    Good points made there JakNife. but would that be seen as manipulation or shorting of the stock? By SugaToyBoyDaddy
  • Re: what do you make of this? by JakNife
    Fri, 01 Aug 2014 09:12:00 GMT

    SugaToyBoyDaddy,

    It's very straightforward.

    1. Zentar Securities Limited has an arrangement somewhere with a small cap broker to sell sell sell sell sell shares of Insetco. Somewhere that small cap broker is selling shares and suckers are buying them at 0.075p.

    2. The small cap broker sells the shares and covers the sale with a short-term borrow.

    3. When the small cap broker has sold a decent chunk of shares then Zentar converts a chunk of the convertible at a price of 0.025p.

    4. Zentar splits its massive profit and shares some with the small cap broker.

    This way the small cap broker makes a big profit, Zentar makes a great profit and the sucker who has bought the shares has some shares that they paid 0.075p for but which are worth substantially less. Eventially the share price will fall and that will be recongnised by the market ... and the next convertible will have an even lower shares price.

    Just look back through the RNS statements, you can see the pattern, eg this is when they were issuing shares via a convertible at 14.5p:

    3 October 2011: link

    The strike price was changed to 1.5p here:

    14 September 2012: link

    And lowered to 0.025p here:

    22 May 2014: link

    JakNife
    By JakNife
  • Re: what do you make of this? by SugaToyBoyDaddy
    Thu, 31 Jul 2014 18:28:00 GMT

    infact,an RNS on the 20th of June said Zentar Securities Limited had 100,000,000 shares. where did they go if they were not sold.did they run out of shares for shorting with,hence the 75,000,000 buy on today's RNS? By SugaToyBoyDaddy
  • Re: what do you make of this? by SugaToyBoyDaddy
    Thu, 31 Jul 2014 16:54:00 GMT

    Or is it classed as short selling and they're taking everyone else's chance of profit with them.,they must be making money out of it either way or they would not have bought another 75,000,000 shares. By SugaToyBoyDaddy
  • what do you make of this? by SugaToyBoyDaddy
    Thu, 31 Jul 2014 16:35:00 GMT

    link

    On this link it is reported to routers on the 27th of May 2014 that (Insetco PLC:Says Zentar Securities Limited holds 60 mln ordinary shares representing 16.48 pct of the total voting rights.

    Yet in todays RNS it shows that Zentar Securities Limited, under the heading of (Resulting situation after the triggering transaction) suggests they now have 75,000,000 shares in insetco.
    but , under the heading (Situation previous to the triggering transaction)it shows they had nil shares. which conflicts with the first part and as stated on the link above.

    Does this mean that they had 60,000,000 shares and have been selling them to drag the price down,and then bought back in for a cheaper price.

    Is that a form of price manipulation of the stock? By SugaToyBoyDaddy
  • Re: More Diltution! by SugaToyBoyDaddy
    Thu, 31 Jul 2014 16:07:00 GMT

    up (+7.14%) you should have gone to specsavers.

    And some sells went through @ 0.09p which is profit for buyers @0.07p.and it still bounced up to 0.10p

    so your too late to save your skin now fella. it matters not, even if it nose dives now.you were wrong on the day. Lol By SugaToyBoyDaddy
  • Re: More Diltution! by JakNife
    Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:00:00 GMT

    LOL!

    minus 7.14%!!!!!!

    How many suckers will continue to buy at 0.075p when they know that the company is happy to issue new shares (to its bestest specialist friends) at one-third of the price!!!!


    By JakNife
  • Re: More Diltution! by SugaToyBoyDaddy
    Thu, 31 Jul 2014 12:50:00 GMT

    +35.71% :-P By SugaToyBoyDaddy
  • Re: More Diltution! by SugaToyBoyDaddy
    Thu, 31 Jul 2014 12:44:00 GMT

    Up 28.57%.


    Strategic Investment, Loan Note Conversion and Issue of Equity



    The board of Insetco is pleased to announce that it has acquired 10 per cent. of a Canadian financial services business, 1299040 Ontario Inc, for consideration of £60,000.



    1299040 Ontario Inc has recently been formed with the intention to place and structure life settlement backed bonds aimed at the North American market. It has attracted a number of investors and owns a number of life settlement policies. It is the opinion of the board that the relationship with 1299040 Ontario Inc will provide the Company with opportunities to participate in the structuring of financial products.

    By SugaToyBoyDaddy
  • More Diltution! by JakNife
    Thu, 31 Jul 2014 12:15:00 GMT


    LOL!

    A load more shares issued at a mere 0.0025p so that mugs can then buy them at three-times that price from your friendly neighbourhood bucket shop.

    Which broker is pumping and dumping these and what lies are they telling people to get them to invest?

    JakNife


    By JakNife
  • Re: 11,000,000 buy today by SugaToyBoyDaddy
    Tue, 29 Jul 2014 07:36:00 GMT

    Hey Fella,the price has dropped,is'nt this the time when you usually try to save your skin,by saying I told you so. you could even bring the three stooges with you for back up.
    it could be fun:-P By SugaToyBoyDaddy
  • Re: 11,000,000 buy today by SugaToyBoyDaddy
    Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:36:00 GMT

    Well,that was embarrassing for you. don't you just hate it when that happens.
    as ol Blakey used to say,(THAT'S MADE MY DAY THAT HAS) hahaha:-)) By SugaToyBoyDaddy
  • your right biffus by heaveho
    Fri, 24 Oct 2014 15:18:52 GMT

    This is stake building. I might just buy more here while still low.
  • nearly by Biffus
    Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:35:47 GMT

    70 million traded
  • up by Biffus
    Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:35:14 GMT

    17% now...
  • 3 on the ask by Biffus
    Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:34:38 GMT

    Now buys at 0.087
  • up she goes by Biffus
    Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:33:49 GMT

    Tick up
  • deffo by Biffus
    Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:32:58 GMT

    Some stake building here
  • 4 now on the by Biffus
    Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:31:15 GMT

    Ask...0.009 that can get taken out easily
  • when by Biffus
    Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:30:14 GMT

    This moves...It flies
  • up by Biffus
    Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:29:45 GMT

    13% and 66 mill traded...somethings coming....
  • nice by Biffus
    Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:27:55 GMT

    Trades going thru @ 0.008 now
  • heave by Biffus
    Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:47:38 GMT

    0.007 are sells..everything else is a buy
  • heave by Biffus
    Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:46:33 GMT

    I know...but they are buys...that's why we've ticked up twice
  • biffus by heaveho
    Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:42:41 GMT

    They seem like sells though?
  • wow by Biffus
    Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:37:24 GMT

    Massive buying today...tick up
  • TA! for info RayPage by musiclondon
    Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:47:51 GMT

    I'm holding on here - always had a feeling all was not lost - your info supports that.