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    Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:09:00 GMT

    Always at it. By JJNOVICE
  • Re: Trades by John of Groats
    Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:58:00 GMT

    Well, Brookdale sold nearly 3m shares which seems to have taken the wind out of the sails (sales?). Still, it was a moment of excitement and an indication of what could happen if things go well.

    We now have at least 9 months to wait for the next significant news of MYG from the Planning Inspectorate. That could coincide with the election of a new Goverment and who knows what their plans for renewable energy will be? It is just possble that we get news from Poland before that but I wouldn't bet on it.

    John By John of Groats
  • Re: Trades by alltold9
    Mon, 18 Aug 2014 18:52:00 GMT

  • Trades by farmerdave
    Mon, 18 Aug 2014 09:14:00 GMT

    Huge number of trades doubling the price starting at 9 with a 50,000 buy and going from there - something up or another false dawn ?

    FD By farmerdave
  • So what happened at the AGM? by John of Groats
    Thu, 07 Aug 2014 00:54:00 GMT

    On 1st Agust, REH announced it had finally submitted an application for development consent for Mynydd Y Gwynt (MYG). The Planning Inspectorate has 28 days to accept that the application is valid (note that this does not mean the same as granting consent). Since there have been considerable delays to submission to make sure the application is valid, I suspect the chance of it being rejected at this stage is small. We shall have to wait much longer, probably another year, to learn whether consent has been granted.

    The share price rose a little on the announcement then dropped to its lowest yet. The announcement of the results of today's (Wednesday) AGM was as expected yet the price has bounced back. Why?


    By John of Groats
  • New highs or new lows ? by dickie3times
    Fri, 20 Jun 2014 22:01:00 GMT

    It depends on who's shorting?

    Deramping SHORTERS !

    Shorting a rising much worse when it is done by your resident posters that seemingly are your buddies and convince 'long' holders to give up!

    What many pi's fail to grasp is the extent that shorting is taking place. Often we tend to think that the 'shorter' is done with and we expect the stock to now rise, now that 'he' is out of the way? You'd be wrong in many instances, for 'he' the shorter, is often followed by others that 'help' keep the stock down !

    Some stocks fall after GOOD NEWS! ....IS it just normal levels of profit taking? Yes, imo....

    ...BUT the underlying reason for many pi's taking early profits, is simply they are afraid they'll be left in paper losses!

    Thus, if the stock, after 'good news' is then shorted, then kiss good bye to this stock reaching new highs in the very near term!

    We can't both WIN !

    The 'shorts' therefore 'win' their bets, whereas the 'longs' lose the best part of their investment, possibly for some time to come.and just when you thought this couldn't go any lower, THEY'LL SHORT THE STOCK AGAIN !

    Why is this? They both can't win...the money has to come from somewhere?


    Thanks for all your support. We are now at 4,379 votes!


    (that's A LOT of irate investors!)

    Investors are saying something? They are voting in their thousands !

    HMGovt epetition, make short selling illegal !

    (or at least better regulated)

    * cast your vote here....

    * read more -( a lot more ! )

    Bookmark the links if you wish to 'pass the LINK/s on'.... or read later?


    # The big problem with shorting is that THEY (the shorters) WOULD most likely lose most of their money IF they just 'bet' on the price going down without trying to 'help' it down?

    So, there is the 'catch 22' scenario. No one would know of an RNS to be released that will contain BAD NEWS, if they did and then 'shorted' the stock, then they are guilty of 'insider trading'.

    The only sure way to short a stock and WIN is to spread dis-information to defame the company with help from other posters that are in concert with them. To ENSURE that they don't lose the biggest part of their 'short', ironically, then, they must deramp with (seemingly) believable posts.

    When the pro's do it, they simply get the media or well known 'crooked' tipsters, analysts or brokers to do it for them. (say no more). .They're all in cahoots with each other!


    The campaign against shorting is for the benefit of the 'cheated' investors that cannot control their investments due to the dirty tricks played out by co-ordinated deramping in order to tank the sp to abnormally low levels.

    When the campaign is complete, the results will be reviewed by Govt legislators re- further action! The branch of the FSA ie FCA will be asked by Davide Serra to conduct an investigation into short selling practices, with the view to either:- an outright ban on short selling, or at the very least to be better and more vigorously regulated !

    The HMGovt epetition is a regulated and monitored site with legal authority that will NOT under any circumstances allow any auspicious individuals to prevent 'others' from casting their free votes. Discussions of which are freely entered into with individual viewpoints. By dickie3times
  • AGM on 23rd October by John of Groats
    Fri, 04 Oct 2013 00:06:00 GMT


    Last year you attended the AGM and gave us an interesting report. Will you be attending this year? It would be good to gain an impression of the new Chairman, Roger Harper, and the COO, Clive Callister.

    John By John of Groats
  • Re: The next event? by John of Groats
    Tue, 01 Oct 2013 12:08:00 GMT

    That's event 1 (loan renewal) achieved early without undue penalty.

    Event 2 (MYG planning application) is progressing and completion of the planning process is now expected by the end of March 2015, This is the earliest we could have expected from the COO's conversation with Suhel3 (a poster on ADVFN) on 29th August which indicated completion between the end of March and the end of June 2015.

    However, it looks as though event 3 (sale of Kobylany) will be delayed beyond the end of this year. With the increased Flexible Loan Facility and the extension of the Convertible Loan maturity date to the end of December 2014, an early sale of Kobylany is no longer critical.

    The changes to the expected dates for the sale of Kobylany and the completion of the MYG planning process and the increase in the amount of the loans that has been drawn down to £5m will entail changing my estimate of the future net value of REH slightly. I hope to do that over the next day or two.

    The resignation of Sir John Baker, the last of the old Directors, was no surprise. He stood down as Chairman at the end of March when Mike Proffitt resigned. Roger Harper has been Chairman for six months and seems to be getting the ducks in a row.

    John By John of Groats
  • Another crazy rise? by gepit
    Mon, 30 Sep 2013 13:50:00 GMT

    Something brewing here By gepit
  • The next event? by John of Groats
    Mon, 23 Sep 2013 17:46:00 GMT

    There are three things that should happen over the next three or four months.

    1. Renewal of the Utilico Convertible Loan.

    You might expect that the loan renewal would happen soon after expiry on 30 September 2013 but past history indicates otherwise. When the loan expired on 31 July 2011, renewal took 8 weeks to agree. When the loan expired again on 31 July 2013, renewal took nearly 5 weeks to agree. My best guess is early November.

    2. Submission of the planning application for MYG.

    We are now led to believe this will be done by the end of November. Despite the long history of delays, the new COO (Clive Callister) has some experience in these matters and has put his reputation on the line.

    3. Sale of Kobylany.

    The sale has suffered similar delays but, with the new law on renewable energy finally on the statute book, there is a chance that REH may meet their latest prediction of the end of 2013.

    John By John of Groats
  • Re: But it could still be worth 29p in 2... by John of Groats
    Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:27:00 GMT


    The market has put a value on CWE today but whether that is fair is a matter of opinion. CWE has a long way to go before it reaches profitability and only then can we put a realistic value on it. In the meantime we are juggling with the balance of opportunities and risks. If you want to read some very optimistic views of the future value, I suggest you read the CWE threads on Hot Copper, if you have time to go through hundreds of posts.

    To take just one example of the risks, Reunion has suffered considerable delays to deployment of the buoyant actuator because of weather conditions. The foundations were installed last year but EDF are still waiting for an opportunity to complete the work.

    John By John of Groats
  • Re: But it could still be worth 29p in 2... by John of Groats
    Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:01:00 GMT


    The £500k/MW for MYG was mentioned by Mike Proffitt. Britain has a far better wind regime than continental Europe so wind farms earn more money. MYG is in a particularly good area for wind.

    Remember REH's abortive venture into German wind farms which consistently failed to meet expectations. From the Chairman's statement in the 2009 Annual Report:
    "In Germany, home of our established operational wind assets, the wind speeds have yet
    again been substantially below the 20 year index, leaving all windfarms, including ours,
    operating below original expectations. We are currently looking at financial options to
    improve the return to the Company from these assets."

    From Mike Proffitt's statement in the 2010 Annual Report:
    "Our German windfarms, which had not performed to our expectations in the light of several years of below average wind speeds, were also sold. Completion of this sale took place in September 2010, realising up to £7.6m in cash after repayment of project debt."

    The total installed capacity (not the actual power output) of these wind farms was 40.5MW. So the sale realised £187.7k/MW. Whether this was the actual profit is hard to judge as the project debt may not have included all the costs of purchase and construction. Obviously, this figure should not be confused with the value placed on a fully permitted but unconstructed wind farm such as Kobylany.

    John By John of Groats
  • Re: But it could still be worth 29p in 2... by LWatcher
    Thu, 19 Sep 2013 20:05:00 GMT

    Also - what's your view on fair value for CWE - apart from the 10c estimate by 2015? By LWatcher
  • Re: But it could still be worth 29p in 2014 by LWatcher
    Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:53:00 GMT

    Thanks for the post John, why would MYG fetch £500k/MW compared to the European average of €177k ? ... Because UK onshore farms are valued at a premium? By LWatcher
  • Re: But it could still be worth 29p in 2014 by John of Groats
    Wed, 18 Sep 2013 21:19:00 GMT

    I should have added that at 10c per CWE share, REH's holding would have a value of £5,868k.

    John By John of Groats
  • CWE by drif
    Fri, 23 Jan 2015 08:00:09 GMT

    Volume x3 normal! Im going to have a few more before the big news in about 10 days. Hotting up a lot down under.
  • Walia by drif
    Wed, 21 Jan 2015 09:34:22 GMT

    Not a lot but a moment to remember. I wanted to bring my FTE holding here today but annother delay!!
  • Payment recieved,bulls comming .... by Walia
    Wed, 21 Jan 2015 01:33:59 GMT


  • Newsflow by drif
    Tue, 20 Jan 2015 07:40:19 GMT

    From Australia within a week and now 3 CETO in deployment at Garden Island. No comments from anyone why Clive Callister (BOD) recently bought shares in REH when the company is planning to delist! Strange as the guy cant be thinking of not delisting, can he? Seems a very low SP for a volitile share.
  • CWE by drif
    Fri, 16 Jan 2015 11:06:01 GMT

    All 3 buoys in the water, according to boat watching thread on Hotcopper, with 70,000 views making me feel the update will be very positive on the CWE Share price. The real news will be the tech being proven.
  • Big news from Australia by drif
    Thu, 15 Jan 2015 17:57:13 GMT

    The company is reporting a electric licence agreement for GI amd a second pod is almost in the water for deployment. Major move here perhaps when confirmed.
  • Buoy moved by drif
    Thu, 15 Jan 2015 07:22:44 GMT

    For potential deployment, Hotcopper is alive and we know a lot of work is happening at garden island atm.
  • Walia by drif
    Wed, 14 Jan 2015 09:41:59 GMT

    Nice link thanks for posting that one, really gives am idea of the upcoming futures for REH, I read on Hotcopper that a buoy has been readying for deployment. I will unload my FTE this week for a bigger bite in REH. It's brewing
  • Huge potential ...... by Walia
    Tue, 13 Jan 2015 21:40:08 GMT


  • world’s first commercial-scale wave by Walia
    Tue, 13 Jan 2015 16:09:28 GMT


  • big buys comming by Walia
    Tue, 13 Jan 2015 11:06:10 GMT

    500000 just gone through.some news must be coming.
  • Good by drif
    Tue, 13 Jan 2015 08:11:05 GMT

    To see other people post! Well it's a binery as I see it also and the CWE share price is looking like it's going to climb even as far as 100%from today's level amd that would put 400% on the REH value.
  • Equity Value by EM202020
    Mon, 12 Jan 2015 18:37:03 GMT

    When working out the equity value to compare with the current market cap you will need to deduct the company's existing debts - on an indicative basis, the lender's current debt is more or less covered (and secured on I believe) REH's investment in Carnegie Wave - just thought I would point that out so any reader out there takes that into account. I am a holder here as a binary bet (amongst a number of other binary best I make) on the Welsh project getting planning and financial close. If CWE also proves up its projects than I view that as helpful but most of that current CWE value will go to repay REH's existing lender's debt and interest on that debt. The REH equity is either worth a few or many multiples of its current price or worth nothing. So real gamble on this one.
  • RE: Action reported in Australia by TheKey
    Mon, 12 Jan 2015 13:25:14 GMT

    Thanks for the heads up drif.... But, I mainly just wanted to let you know that despite what the BB looks like, you aren't really talking to yourself here! :-) This one has been a real sleeper for a long while though. I originally bought in on the CWE value alone based on the fact that the market will eventually figure out that you can buy 1 dollar coins for 25 cents here, (although they're a little slow off the mark to say the least). This one does have it's spikes though, and can really move quickly (both ways) when it does. Value will out in the end here, and for me, I'm not to concerned when that is. All the best with your investments and rest assured at least one person is reading your posts! :-)
  • Action reported in Australia by drif
    Mon, 12 Jan 2015 12:57:16 GMT

    CWE are on the Garden Island site with 3 tugs and a barge during the present window weather, look like a prep for a second and third deployment or to go live into the grid for the worlds first operational wave energy project, either way was recently rated no4 on the 100 Australian stocks to watch. REH owns 5.9% of CWE and that holding is worth x 4 times the current Market cap. Very big news expected shortly for a company worth just a small 900k.